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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-23 10:38:35
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I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the marks
from the trim.
I can now reach the unit without stretching and it no longer obscures any of
the view of the outside world. It is far less obvious to a potential thief
and the bracket can be obscured when the car is unattended.
I have published some pics here:-
http://richard812.fotopic.net

Out of respect to Mr.Bitsy et.al. the screen is powered up for the photo
call. I keep the unit on with the screen off for most of the time as I find
the audio prompts for hazards, speed camera warnings and nav directions
adequate for my needs. The unit runs cooler in this state and may therefore
last longer.

Richard


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 06:12:03
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Hawkins wrote in message
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>I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
>mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
>self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
>would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the marks
>from the trim.
> I can now reach the unit without stretching and it no longer obscures any
> of the view of the outside world. It is far less obvious to a potential
> thief and the bracket can be obscured when the car is unattended.
> I have published some pics here:-
> http://richard812.fotopic.net
>
> Out of respect to Mr.Bitsy et.al. the screen is powered up for the photo
> call. I keep the unit on with the screen off for most of the time as I
> find the audio prompts for hazards, speed camera warnings and nav
> directions adequate for my needs. The unit runs cooler in this state and
> may therefore last longer.
>
> Richard
>

Hi Richard
nice to see that you keep the Lotus Assist card so handily placed.......

Alex

Sorry, had to do it!


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 08:11:59
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Alex cotgreave wrote in message
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>
> Hawkins wrote in message
> news:3YOdnd1l6fGs6jnbRVnygwA@bt.com...
>>I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
>>mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
>>self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
>>would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the
>>marks from the trim.
>> I can now reach the unit without stretching and it no longer obscures any
>> of the view of the outside world. It is far less obvious to a potential
>> thief and the bracket can be obscured when the car is unattended.
>> I have published some pics here:-
>> http://richard812.fotopic.net
>>
>> Out of respect to Mr.Bitsy et.al. the screen is powered up for the photo
>> call. I keep the unit on with the screen off for most of the time as I
>> find the audio prompts for hazards, speed camera warnings and nav
>> directions adequate for my needs. The unit runs cooler in this state and
>> may therefore last longer.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> Hi Richard
> nice to see that you keep the Lotus Assist card so handily placed.......
>
> Alex
>
> Sorry, had to do it!
>
No need to apologise at all. I keep that handy along with a mobile phone
about my person. As you probably know these cars do not carry a spare wheel,
instead one is provided with an aerosol type thingy to get you to a tyre
depot (yea-maybe).
This Elise has a Toyota motor which AFAIK is pretty darn reliable, certainly
better than the highly tuned ex-fire pump engines that were used long ago.

Richard


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 10:20:19
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On 2007-07-23 10:38:35 +0100, Hawkins
said:

> I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
> mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
> self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
> would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the marks
> from the trim.
> I can now reach the unit without stretching and it no longer obscures any of
> the view of the outside world. It is far less obvious to a potential thief
> and the bracket can be obscured when the car is unattended.
> I have published some pics here:-
> http://richard812.fotopic.net
>
> Out of respect to Mr.Bitsy et.al. the screen is powered up for the photo
> call. I keep the unit on with the screen off for most of the time as I find
> the audio prompts for hazards, speed camera warnings and nav directions
> adequate for my needs. The unit runs cooler in this state and may therefore
> last longer.
>
> Richard

Any chance of a picture of the actual fixing method?

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The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 10:38:22
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Hawkins wrote in message
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> I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
> mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
> self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
> would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the
marks
> from the trim.
SNIP>
> Richard
>
Do you find the distance from the screen affects the sensitivity of the
instrument? I have a Garmin 300 in a Peugeot 306 SW, and again, the screen
is a long way from the driver. I used the suction mount on the side window
for some time, but had problems when I needed to open the window quickly -
it always seemed to be when the sucker refused to come off the glass!

I mounted the unit on a temporary trial rig which consisted of a stainless
steel plate tucked into the trim joints in front of the central display, and
although it worked, initial location of satelites took several minutes, and
countdown of turn distances was behind real position on the road (ie when
directly opposite the turn, the display was still saying turn in 100 ft,
as though the unit was slow in working out where it was. I suspect that the
athermic screen has something to do with this, but its a bit strange that
if the unit is close to the screen it doesnt seem to be affected, but if it
is under the screen but a distance away from it, the device seems to
struggle.

Moving the temporary fixing to jam into a seam on the door by the side
window has returned the previous speed and accuracy, and Ill almost
certainly end up fixing it there.

I might try a external aerial, keeping the central position for the GPS, as
the central position has the advantage that a passenger can do a quick
re-programming to an alternative route if unexpected road conditions are
experienced. I hope that an external aerial can be mounted internally
near the side window, to avoid any too obvious signs that a GPS is used in
the car.

Keith


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 13:26:28
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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote in
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> On 2007-07-23 10:38:35 +0100, Hawkins
> said:
>
>> I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
>> mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
>> self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
>> would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the
>> marks
>> from the trim.
>> I can now reach the unit without stretching and it no longer obscures any
>> of
>> the view of the outside world. It is far less obvious to a potential
>> thief
>> and the bracket can be obscured when the car is unattended.
>> I have published some pics here:-
>> http://richard812.fotopic.net
>>
>> Out of respect to Mr.Bitsy et.al. the screen is powered up for the photo
>> call. I keep the unit on with the screen off for most of the time as I
>> find
>> the audio prompts for hazards, speed camera warnings and nav directions
>> adequate for my needs. The unit runs cooler in this state and may
>> therefore
>> last longer.
>>
>> Richard
>
> Any chance of a picture of the actual fixing method?
>
> --
> Darren Griffin
> PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
> The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
>

As soon as the present very black cloud does not threaten to drown us all I
will take a couple of detail pics. I just tried with built-in flash but
black on dark grey fooled the focus and exposure!

The mod to the mount bracket consists of clearance hole drilled in the
middle of the mounting bracket about one third down from the top. This was
then countersunk to take the head of the screw used. The next stage was to
hold the bracket against the dash in the optimum position and drill a pilot
hole into the curved part of the dash. I poked around with a thin probe to
make sure I was not going into anything vital. There are protuberances on
the back of the bracket horizontally near the top and again at the bottom.
These nicely stabilise the bracket in all directions and mean that a firm
mount can be made with just one screw. They also enable the bracket to be
moved up and down to find the optimum height and angle before making finally
drilling the fixing hole.
A self-tapper into the fibreglass works well but a more professional fit
should really use a captive nut fixing in the dash with a stand off bush to
avoid overtightening distorting the mounting bracket.
The position I chose is below the eyeline to the bottom of the screen and
the finished unit does not get in the way of any of the controls or vents.

Like your site but not much coverage of Road Angel :-))

Richard.


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 13:51:52
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Keith W wrote in message
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>
> Hawkins wrote in message
> news:3YOdnd1l6fGs6jnbRVnygwA@bt.com...
>> I was not keen on the original sucker fitting so I used a bit of DIY and
>> mounted the unit directly on the dashboard. All I used was one long
>> self-tapping screw. If I ever to remove the bracket a small blind grommet
>> would fill the hole and a buff up with a suede brush would remove the
> marks
>> from the trim.
> SNIP>
>> Richard
>>
> Do you find the distance from the screen affects the sensitivity of the
> instrument? I have a Garmin 300 in a Peugeot 306 SW, and again, the
> screen
> is a long way from the driver. I used the suction mount on the side window
> for some time, but had problems when I needed to open the window quickly -
> it always seemed to be when the sucker refused to come off the glass!
>
> I mounted the unit on a temporary trial rig which consisted of a stainless
> steel plate tucked into the trim joints in front of the central display,
> and
> although it worked, initial location of satelites took several minutes,
> and
> countdown of turn distances was behind real position on the road (ie when
> directly opposite the turn, the display was still saying turn in 100 ft,
> as though the unit was slow in working out where it was. I suspect that
> the
> athermic screen has something to do with this, but its a bit strange that
> if the unit is close to the screen it doesnt seem to be affected, but if
> it
> is under the screen but a distance away from it, the device seems to
> struggle.
>
> Moving the temporary fixing to jam into a seam on the door by the side
> window has returned the previous speed and accuracy, and Ill almost
> certainly end up fixing it there.
>
> I might try a external aerial, keeping the central position for the GPS,
> as
> the central position has the advantage that a passenger can do a quick
> re-programming to an alternative route if unexpected road conditions are
> experienced. I hope that an external aerial can be mounted internally
> near the side window, to avoid any too obvious signs that a GPS is used in
> the car.
>
> Keith
>
>
In the Lotus I do not have the problem of a treated screen or lots of
surrounding metal work. The roof is either a glass fibre hard top, rag top
or open to the sky. I guess the further you move your unit away from the
screen the more it is obscured from the sky by the (metal?) roof.
Quite often with an athermic screen there is a clear patch usually near the
rear view mirror were you could mount a patch antenna.

Richard.


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 Post subject: Fitting my GPS
PostPosted: 2007-07-24 15:08:35
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Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote in
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> Any chance of a picture of the actual fixing method?
>
> --
> Darren Griffin
> PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
> The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
>
One new picture added ( not very exciting)
here:-
http://richard812.fotopic.net

Richard


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