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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 02:15:46
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Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation device
and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.

The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s windscreen
mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost of Western
Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.

I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured PDA
with WiFi and Bluetooth.

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id=3D3649&deal=3D3652

What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job, is it
slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?

JPG


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 10:37:19
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JPG wrote in message
news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation device
and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.

The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s windscreen
mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost of Western
Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.

I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured PDA
with WiFi and Bluetooth.

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652

What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job, is it
slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?

JPG

Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages

Six months or so ago I obtained an o2 XDAIIi and a month or so a blue tooth gps

With the GPS came TT5 which included the UK and ALL of Western Europe and
Scandinavia

On a recent trip to the Loire the set up worked flawlessly except for charghing

the PDA battery from the car

That was not the PADs fault

With O2 Im on a Ł30.00 a month tariff ( I was on that with orange ) and with
a
trade inof a acient phone . the PDA cost me Ł49.99

DieSea


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 10:26:18
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DieSea wrote:
> JPG wrote in message
> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation device
> and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>
> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s windscreen
> mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost of Western
> Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>
> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured
> PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>
> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>
> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
> system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job, is
> it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>
> JPG
>
> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>

agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and embedded GPS,
if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.

Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any hardware
reliability
isues with the mitac can be resolved via the SOGA and new aftermarket mounts
are cheap enough. Id be tempted to source the mitac P550 seperately from
tomtom.

In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 11:53:57
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. wrote:
> DieSea wrote:
>> JPG wrote in message
>> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation device
>> and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>>
>> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s windscreen
>> mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost of Western
>> Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>>
>> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured
>> PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>>
>> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>>
>> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
>> system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job, is
>> it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>>
>> JPG
>>
>> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>>
>
> agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and embedded
> GPS, if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.
>
> Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any hardware
> reliability isues with the mitac can be resolved via the SOGA and new
> aftermarket mounts are cheap enough. Id be tempted to source the mitac
> P550 seperately
> from tomtom.
> In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*

Im looking at the Fujitsu-Siemens range myself - a couple of colleagues
have got them...

http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-fujitsu+siemens+computers-brl.html


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 11:58:36
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cupra wrote:
> . wrote:
>> DieSea wrote:
>>> JPG wrote in message
>>> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation device
>>> and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>>>
>>> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s windscreen
>>> mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost of Western
>>> Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>>>
>>> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured
>>> PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>>>
>>> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>>>
>>> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
>>> system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job, is
>>> it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>>>
>>> JPG
>>>
>>> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>>>
>>
>> agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and embedded
>> GPS, if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.
>>
>> Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any hardware
>> reliability isues with the mitac can be resolved via the SOGA and new
>> aftermarket mounts are cheap enough. Id be tempted to source the
>> mitac P550 seperately
>> from tomtom.
>> In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*
>
> Im looking at the Fujitsu-Siemens range myself - a couple of
> colleagues have got them...
>
>
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-fujitsu+siemens+computers-brl.html

the N560 looks interesting but theres quite a hefty price premium for the
224mhz speed
bump. most PXA270 400mhz cpus can be clocked to 500mhz with no adverse affects.

its no looker, either is it ?

hmmm. thinks. no quad band phone ... waits for proper convergence of 600mhz CPU
256 ROM - 128 RAM - Wi-Fi B&G - BT 2.0 - embedded Sirf Star III - IrDA - 4GB SD
support - Quad band GSM, all in an MDA compact sized (or smaller) device.


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 13:30:16
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. wrote:
> cupra wrote:
>> . wrote:
>>> DieSea wrote:
>>>> JPG wrote in message
>>>> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation
>>>> device and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s
>>>> windscreen mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost
>>>> of Western Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>>>>
>>>> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a full-featured
>>>> PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>>>>
>>>> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a PDA-based
>>>> system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the job,
>>>> is it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>>>>
>>>> JPG
>>>>
>>>> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>>>>
>>>
>>> agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and embedded
>>> GPS, if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.
>>>
>>> Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any
>>> hardware reliability isues with the mitac can be resolved via the
>>> SOGA and new aftermarket mounts are cheap enough. Id be tempted to
>>> source the mitac P550 seperately
>>> from tomtom.
>>> In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*
>>
>> Im looking at the Fujitsu-Siemens range myself - a couple of
>> colleagues have got them...
>>
>>
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-fujitsu+siemens+computers-brl.html
>
> the N560 looks interesting but theres quite a hefty price premium
> for the 224mhz speed bump. most PXA270 400mhz cpus can be clocked to
> 500mhz with no adverse affects.
> its no looker, either is it ?

I dont think it looks bad :)

>
> hmmm. thinks. no quad band phone ... waits for proper convergence of
> 600mhz CPU 256 ROM - 128 RAM - Wi-Fi B&G - BT 2.0 - embedded Sirf
> Star III - IrDA - 4GB SD support - Quad band GSM, all in an MDA compact
> sized (or smaller)
> device.

That would be interesting - one less device to carry around....


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 12:34:30
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cupra wrote:
> . wrote:
>> cupra wrote:
>>> . wrote:
>>>> DieSea wrote:
>>>>> JPG wrote in message
>>>>> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation
>>>>> device and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s
>>>>> windscreen mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the cost
>>>>> of Western Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a
>>>>> full-featured PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>>>>>
>>>>> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a
>>>>> PDA-based system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up to the
job,
>>>>> is it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> JPG
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and
>>>> embedded GPS, if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.
>>>>
>>>> Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any
>>>> hardware reliability isues with the mitac can be resolved via the
>>>> SOGA and new aftermarket mounts are cheap enough. Id be tempted to
>>>> source the mitac P550 seperately
>>>> from tomtom.
>>>> In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*
>>>
>>> Im looking at the Fujitsu-Siemens range myself - a couple of
>>> colleagues have got them...
>>>
>>>
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-fujitsu+siemens+computers-brl.html
>>
>> the N560 looks interesting but theres quite a hefty price premium
>> for the 224mhz speed bump. most PXA270 400mhz cpus can be clocked to
>> 500mhz with no adverse affects.
>> its no looker, either is it ?
>
> I dont think it looks bad :)
>
>>
>> hmmm. thinks. no quad band phone ... waits for proper convergence of
>> 600mhz CPU 256 ROM - 128 RAM - Wi-Fi B&G - BT 2.0 - embedded Sirf
>> Star III - IrDA - 4GB SD support - Quad band GSM, all in an MDA
>> compact sized (or smaller)
>> device.
>
> That would be interesting - one less device to carry around....

MDA Compact II gets close to those specs, the PDA-N gets closer. hopefully,
well
see a device with the above specs within 18 months.


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 Post subject: Why shouldnt I buy this?
PostPosted: 2006-07-04 14:01:43
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. wrote:
> cupra wrote:
>> . wrote:
>>> cupra wrote:
>>>> . wrote:
>>>>> DieSea wrote:
>>>>>> JPG wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1152004546.171378.181310@v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Ive been mulling over my first purchase of an car navigation
>>>>>> device and I am almost set on the Tomtom Go 510.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that I have heard bad reports on the 510s
>>>>>> windscreen mount and was also a bit shocked to learn that the
>>>>>> cost of Western Europe maps could be as high as Ł200.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then spotted this, complete with WE maps and also a
>>>>>> full-featured PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/bundle details.php?id649&deal652
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are any other advantages or disadvantages of using a
>>>>>> PDA-based system? Is the screen less good, are the speakers up
>>>>>> to the job, is it slower (Windoze-based)? Are the maps ok?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JPG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I dont think there are any disadvantages
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> agreed. thats a very decently speccd PDA in its self and
>>>>> embedded GPS, if it performs satisfactorily, is a definate bonus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Id buy the Mitac P550 over the TomTom 510. no question. any
>>>>> hardware reliability isues with the mitac can be resolved via the
>>>>> SOGA and new aftermarket mounts are cheap enough. Id be tempted
>>>>> to source the mitac P550 seperately
>>>>> from tomtom.
>>>>> In fact, I might buy one myself *shakes piggy bank*
>>>>
>>>> Im looking at the Fujitsu-Siemens range myself - a couple of
>>>> colleagues have got them...
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-fujitsu+siemens+computers-brl.html
>>>
>>> the N560 looks interesting but theres quite a hefty price premium
>>> for the 224mhz speed bump. most PXA270 400mhz cpus can be clocked
>>> to 500mhz with no adverse affects.
>>> its no looker, either is it ?
>>
>> I dont think it looks bad :)
>>
>>>
>>> hmmm. thinks. no quad band phone ... waits for proper convergence of
>>> 600mhz CPU 256 ROM - 128 RAM - Wi-Fi B&G - BT 2.0 - embedded Sirf
>>> Star III - IrDA - 4GB SD support - Quad band GSM, all in an MDA
>>> compact sized (or smaller)
>>> device.
>>
>> That would be interesting - one less device to carry around....
>
> MDA Compact II gets close to those specs, the PDA-N gets closer.
> hopefully, well see a device with the above specs within 18 months.

Yes - in time for my next upgrade, hopefully!


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